Barbara Crooker is a quiet
soul and a richly talented woman. I first heard Barbara's
"voice" via a broadcast of ‘Prairie Home Companion’ when Garrison
Keillor read one of her poems. I continued to discover her
voice and work as it appeared in various publications, Rock and Sling, Christianity
and Literature, The Christian Century,
Spiritus, and most recently in Tweetspeak Publishing’s "How to Read a Poem" by Tania Runyan
(TSPoetry Press).
In February of 2014 we both attended the AWP Conference in Seattle and 'happened' to be at the same poetry workshop. I noticed her in line behind me while we waited to speak with the workshop leaders. Sounding just like a groupie I gushed about her work and unashamedly asked for her email address. We kept in touch and she agreed to participate in an 'interview' via this blog.
Here are some of her thoughts on writing poetry.
First, from her most recent poetry collection Gold (Wipf & Stock, 2013)
Sparklers
We’re writing out names with
sizzles of light
to celebrate the fourth. I use the loops of cursive,
make a big B like the sloping
hills on the west side
of the lake. The rest, a little a, r, one small b,
spit and fizz as they scratch
the night. On the side
of the shack where we bought
them, a handmade sign:
Trailer Full of Sparkles Ahead, and I imagine crazy
chrysanthemums, wheels of
fire, glitter bouncing
off metals walls, Here we keep tracing in tiny
pyrotechnics the letters we
were given at birth,
branding them on the
air. And though my mother’s
name has been erased now, I
write it, too:
a big swooping I, a little
hissing s, an a that sighs
like her last breath, and
then I ring
belle, belle, belle in the
sulphuric smoky dark.
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1. Although you have
undergraduate degrees in English Lit and Art History, (and a graduate degree in
English Lit), you said your real education came from "The School of 3,000 Books."
Tell me what you mean.
I'm one of a handful of
writers without an MFA or a PhD; when I first started writing, I had small
children, and if I'd wanted an MFA then, I'd have had to leave my family and
live somewhere else for two years—no way that was going to happen! Later, of course, the "distance"
MFAs were born, where you only have to be in residence for a couple of weeks
per year, but even that was impossible, partly because of the cost, and partly
because my youngest child (who's now 30) was diagnosed with autism, and so even
being gone for two weeks would have been too much strain on the family.
So I went to "school" by buying
books—anthologies, individual collections, literary criticism, and the like,
and studying, studying, studying. Then
the internet came into being; that vastly expanded the availability of critical
articles, poets to read (especially in "the dailies," Poetry Daily, Verse Daily), and The Writer's
Almanac, plus "the weekly," Ted Kooser's American Life in Poetry. I'm
constantly running into writers, especially beginning writers, who say they
don't read much poetry, and I don't understand this; our job as writers is to
be readers, first.
And I'm constantly
learning. I might fall in love with
something, say a new form, and so I research and read as many poems as I can
find that exemplify the form, then try my hand at it. I'm also constantly falling in love with new
writers, and falling back in love with old favorites; in both cases, I make
sure I buy their books.
2. When I asked
about your faith background you responded with the term,
"Zen Lutheran." What did you mean?
I'm an active member of a
small Lutheran church, but I feel that my faith walk casts its net wider. One of the things that Buddhism teaches us is
to be present in the moment, to pay careful attention to the world around us,
particularly the natural world. To be
alive in the senses. To honor all living
things. To respond to the light that's
in all of us. To be fully open.
3. What about your writing is the most difficult?
To make the poem on the page live up to
the promise of the poem in my head.
4. What about your writing brings you the most
joy?
When I feel I've
"got it right," that I've been able to apply all I know about craft
to a poem without losing its emotional heart.
This doesn't happen all the time; along the way, many poems are either
discarded, or cannibalized into poems that go off in another direction.
5. You have been
writing a very long time (over 40 years) and your beautiful work is being
discovered a little at a time. Your Selected
Poems comes out next year, Gold
is touching many people with the words about your mother’s passing. During this
time, I’m sure there were rejection slips. What kept you going?
Oh, rejection slips! One of the poems in Radiance (Word Press, 2005) is called "Twenty-Five Years of Rejection
Slips," and that's about how long it took for me to get my first book
out. There's a Scots prayer that goes,
"Lord, grant that I may always be right, for Thou knowest I am
hard to turn."
One of my better (or
worse, depending on your perspective) qualities is persistence (and its cousin,
stubbornness). Plus, I take as my model
Claude Monet, who said, "Apart from gardening or painting, I really don't
know how to do anything." (I'm paraphrasing.) That's me, if you substitute writing for painting.
6. Any words of
wisdom for struggling poets? Any last
thoughts?
Read, read, read! Read widely, read deeply. Read poets of the past, read
contemporaries. Read journals, read
anthologies, read individual collections.
Eat those books!
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